On April 28th, three churches partnered with Vincennes Apologetics to put on an event about LGBTQ issues.
Jonathan Titsworth, pastor at Heritage Baptist Church, spoke on several bible passages that have collectively been called “clobber passages” by the LGBTQ community because of their opposition to their lifestyle. Jonathan spent time explaining the proper interpretations of Genesis 1-2, Leviticus 18 & 20, Matthew 19, and Romans 1.
His final passage was 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 which says,
Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither the sexually immoral, or idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor resilient, nor swindlers will inherit the Kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
As Christians we should never forget that we are just as guilty of sin as anyone, including those who are practicing LGBTQ.
Jonathan’s final talking point was to love those who are LGBTQ. Take them out for coffee. Get to know them so that they know you care about them.
My talk was about loving the LGBTQ community without affirming their lifestyle.
I opened my message by talking about what love is from John 15:12-13
This is my commandment, that you love one another as I. have loved you. Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.
John Piper, Desiring God Ministries, in reference to this passage, defines love as this. Love is doing whatever you can, even at great cost to yourself, to do what’s best for the other person. Jesus did this by laying down his life as a sacrifice for our sin.
I moved on to explain that the behaviors engaged by the LGBTQ community are not what’s best on two levels. The first level is Scripturally. The Bible makes several claims toward LGBTQ behavior, condemning it at every turn. Jesus addresses nearly all of the LGBTQ behaviors in Matthew 19:4
[Jesus] answered “Have you not read that he who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh? So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.
In this passage Jesus is saying that God’s plan for sexual relationships is one man, one woman, one flesh, for one lifetime.
The next level is in matters of science. According to science we know that there is nothing genetic about homosexuality. People are not ‘”born that way.” According to the American Psychological Association (APA),
Although much research as examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientist to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by an particular factor or factors.
And we know that transgenderism has no objective factors involved in determining it’s existence other than that individuals feeling at a given moment.
We know that those who engage in a homosexual lifestyle are less likely to have monogamous relationships. According to the Kinsey Institute for Sex Research, 43% of homosexuals have had at least 500 sexual partners and 28% have had a 1000. This high rate of partners has increased the transmission of sexual diseases. According to the CDC, Men have an 83% rate for Syphilis. And even though homosexuals make up approximately 2% of the population, they carry 55% of those carrying HIV.
Since transgenderism has no objective standard determining it’s existence, other than what is going on in that individual’s mind, it is possible that a legitimate man to claim to be a woman in order to gain access to places only women are allowed. Although it is not reported in media often, these things have happened.
Myself, Pastor Jonathan Titsworth of Heritage Baptist Church, Pastor Scott Moreland of Westminster Presbyterian Church and Pastor Matthew Smith of Franklin Heights Church also fielded questions from the crowd. There were several excellent questions but there was one comment that meant the most to me. A pastor praised our efforts to address this particular issue. It is not an easy or popular subject to talk about but an important one for the church to address. It is not important so much because the Bible make a big deal of these issues but because the culture has made it a litmus test. Many have made it clear that they are taking no prisoners and Christians are supposed to get on board with their moral standards concerning sexuality. But we are convinced that our churches and children need to be educated on these issues.
Ultimately, I ended by saying that LGBTQ is not really the issue here. Jesus Christ is the issue. We must make him the focus of our attention, and our interaction with those who are LGBTQ, and let him change the heart for His glory.
We had a really great turnout that included about a dozen students from the Christian Campus Fellowship at Vincennes University, pastors from other churches, and many members of each of the churches involved with the event. Thank you so much for you all being a part of it. I look forward to doing something like this again.
Your Friendly Neighborhood Apologist